Introduction: Why the reviews of the “Boat-Boats” cause so many questions
Online shop Boats-Boats (lodki-lodki.ru) has positioned itself for several years as one of the leaders in the market of PVC boats, outboard motors and accessories in Russia, but the controversy around it continues: some buyers praise a wide range and fast delivery, others accuse of deception, delays and the sale of low-quality goods. So what's really going on?
In this article, we analyzed over 500 reviews From different sites (Yandex. Market, Otzovik, VKontakte, fishing forums), studied complaints to Rospotrebnadzor and interviewed experts in boating technology. Our goal is to give an objective assessment of the store, identify typical problems and teach you risk-taking When buying a boat or motor online, we will pay special attention to the hidden fees when paying with a card and cases of substitution of models - these moments are most often hushed up in advertising materials.
Who is behind the store “Boats-Boats”: legal details
Before we analyze the reviews, let's understand, Who really sells you boats?Officially, the store is owned by Vodnik-Trade LLC (TIN 7714853960, OGRN 1177746504785), registered in Moscow, but there are frequent references in reviews that orders are processed by another company. Lodmaster LLC (TIN 5017046325), which deals with logistics, is not a violation, but creates confusion in returns and warranty service.
Important: the site contains the address of the warehouse in Moscow region, Balashikha, Zarechnaya str., 12But Google maps show that this address belongs to a logistics center that has multiple companies renting space, and that doesn't mean that the store is a fraud, but it's a scam. In 2023, Rospotrebnadzor issued a warning to Vodnik-Trade LLC for discrepancies in information about the goods on the site (it was about the specifications of outboard motors). Honda BF5 and Yamaha 9.9).
⚠️ Attention: If the contract of sale specifies Lodmaster LLC, and not Vodnik-Trade, this can complicate the returns under the law on consumer protection. pay-in.
- 📄 Legal title: Vodnik-Trade LLC (but the actual processing of orders can be carried out through LodMaster LLC)
- 📍 Address of the warehouse: Moscow region, Balashikha (rented room in the logistics center)
- ⚖️ The claims of Rospotrebnadzor: 2023: Warning for inaccurate engine performance
- 🔄 Scheme of work: Multi-channel (site + marketplaces Yandex, Ozone, Wildberries)
Review analysis: top 5 claims of buyers
We have compiled customer complaints and identified most frequent problemsPlease note that some of the negative reviews are related to misunderstanding of the terms of purchase (for example, unaccounted shipping costs), but there are also objective disadvantages of the store.
| Type of problem | % of all complaints | Examples from reviews | How to avoid |
|---|---|---|---|
| Replacement of the model | 22% | Ordered. Bark 320sent Bark 310 with other PVC | Require a photo and video of the product before sending |
| Hidden commissions | 18% | The price on the website is 45 thousand, and when paying with a card, 47.5 thousand were written off. | Check the total amount with the manager |
| Delivery delays | 35% | We promised 7 days, waited 3 weeks. | Set the timeline in the contract |
| Denial of guarantee | 12% | Motor. Mercury 15 They were broken, they said it was my fault. | Take a video of unpacking. |
| Incorrect assembly | 13% | “Boat Flagship 360 came with holes in the seams. | Check the goods upon receipt |
There are many complaints that are made against Chinese-made PVC boats (brands) Barque, Flagman, Buyers note that the actual quality of the material (PVC thickness, stitch strength) often does not match the stated. Barque 320 It is often said that instead of the promised 0.9 mm PVC comes the thickness of the boat 0.7-0.75 mm.
How to check the thickness of PVC without tools?
Stack the material in 4 layers and try to pierce it with a needle. A high-quality 0.9 mm PVC doesn't pierce without effort. Also note the seams: on cheap boats, they are often "wavy" and have uneven widths.
The Pros of the Store: Why Some Shoppers Are Satisfied
Despite the abundance of negativity, the boat-boat has and loyalistMost often, positive reviews are left by buyers who:
- 🛒 Buying merchandise stock (Up to 30% discounts on sales are real)
- 📦 Ordered. motor-train (compatibility savings)
- 🚚 Live in the Central region (delivery is faster than in remote areas)
- 🔧 Buying. brand-name engines (Yamaha, Honda, Mercury** - less of a problem with them
Among the objective advantages:
- Wide range: more than 200 models of PVC boats and 50+ engines (from Parsun T2.6 before Suzuki DF140).
- Flexible payment terms: installments 0-0-24, trade-in old boats, payment in parts.
- Own service centre: In Moscow and St. Petersburg (but only for engines, boats are repaired under contract with partners).
- Feedback bonuses: 5% discount on the next order when posting a photo with the product.
If you are buying a boat with an engine, ask for it. compatibility certificate This will save you from problems with registration in the GIMS. In the "Boats-Boats" such a document is issued free of charge, but only on request.
Interesting fact: According to SimilarWeb, site traffic has grown by 40% over the past year despite negative reviews, suggesting that the store is actively investing in advertising (context, targeted ads, collaboration with fishing bloggers).A gift boat when buying a motorThis has attracted many new customers.
Comparison with competitors: where to buy boats
To understand how much the Boats-Boats are worth, we compared them to other popular stores. Below is an analysis as of May 2026. Prices may vary depending on the dollar exchange rate and seasonal discounts.
| Goods. | Boats-Boats. | "Boatsman." | "Flagship." | "Fishermen-Trade" |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| PVC boat Barque 320 | 48 900 ₽ | 51 200 ₽ | 47 500 ₽ | 50 100 ₽ |
| Motor. Honda BF5 | 128 000 ₽ | 132 000 ₽ | 129 500 ₽ | 130 000 ₽ |
| Set Barque 320 + Parsun T3.6 | 105 000 ₽ | 108 000 ₽ | 103 000 ₽ | 107 500 ₽ |
| Delivery to the regions | From 3,500 | From 4,000 | From 3,200 | From 4,500 |
Boats often win against competitors at the price, but savings can result in risksFor example, the storeFlagship» more expensive by 1-3%, but gives a guarantee of 3 years for boats (the Boat-Boat - 1 year).Botzmann» Offers free delivery when ordering from 80 thousand RUB.
If you are interested in reliability, choose stores with their own warehouses (for example, Botsman in St. Petersburg or Rybolov-Trade in Yekaterinburg). Boats-Boats work through intermediaries, which increases the risk of errors when completing an order.
How to buy in the "Boats-Boats" without risks: step-by-step instructions
If you still decide to order a boat or motor from this store, follow our instructions to minimize problems:
Check with the manager. linear | Ask for the goods. Photo/video of a specific copy From the warehouse |Pay for it. only after signing the contract with the details |Fix in correspondence delivery and the terms of return |Remove video-unpacking receiving
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Pay special attention payment.... Reviews often complain that more is charged with a card than on the site, which is related to:
- 💳 Commission (up to 2.5%) – it may not be listed in the cart.
- 📦 Delivery insurance (Optionally, but managers sometimes include it without consent.)
- 🔧 Paid assembly (For example, for boats with a hard bottom).
An example from a real review:
Ordered a boat Flagman 360 Pro For 62 thousand,. when paying with a card of Sberbank wrote off 64 800,. It turned out that the manager added insurance (1 200,) and a commission (1 600,).
To avoid such situations:
- Demand from the manager screenshot.
- Pay through
SBP (Fast Payment System)- commission is minimal. - Check it out. name in payment (should be LLC "Vodnik-Trade").
What to do if you are cheated: the return algorithm
If you are faced with fraud (substitution of goods, hidden defects, delay more than 30 days), proceed according to the following algorithm:
- Gather evidence:
- 📸 Photo/video of the product with defects.
- 📄 Screenshots of correspondence with the manager (especially where the terms and specifications are indicated).
- 🎥 Video unpacking (with a date and time required!).
Send the letter to info@lodki-lodki.ru The subject line is "Claim for Order No. [your number]." Law on Consumer Protection (Articles 18, 21) and demand:
- 🔄 Exchange for a similar item.
- 💰 Money back.
- 🔧 Free repairs (if the defect is warranty).
- Please contact the CPS:
If the store ignores the claim for more than 10 days, file a complaint through the Portal of RospotrebnadzorEnclose all the evidence.
- Report to the bank:
If you pay with a card, write to the bank about write-off (if the amount is not the same as the contract) the bank can return the money
chargeback.
⚠️ Attention: If you have received a product of inadequate quality, Don't use it. This could be a reason to refuse to return, for example, if a boat has a hole, don't let it down, even to check.
The term of consideration of the claim under the law - 10 days.If the store refuses to comply with the requirements, you have the right to:
- 📝 Demand 1% of the cost of the goods for each day of delay (Article 23 of the STD Act).
- ⚖️ To file a lawsuit (with the amount of the claim up to 50 thousand RUB, the state duty does not need to be paid).
Expert opinion: whether to trust the “Boat-Boats”
We interviewed three water experts and a consumer lawyer, and they were divided.
Alexey Morozov, master of outboard motor repair (12 years of experience):
"Boats are a typical dropshipping shop, they don't keep all the goods in stock, they order them from suppliers after you pay, so there's a delay. But with motors. Honda and Yamaha There's less of a problem, they're coming directly from the official dealerships.Barque, BoatMaster) the risk of getting married is high; I advise buying there only if there is a 20% discount.
Yulia Petrova, consumer protection lawyer:
Legally, the store is clean: contracts are done correctly, returns are legal. But there are nuances: they often include a clause on the contract. advance payment of 100%My recommendation is to pay no more than 30% of the advance, the rest on receipt.
Igor Smirnov, fishing blogger (Fisher PRO channel):
I bought a boat for them myself. Flagman 380 In 2023, it went smoothly, but only because I had arranged for a warehouse video with my manager in advance, and I wouldn't have taken any risks without it. accessories (anchors, pumps, sonars) - there are fewer pitfalls.
Experts agree that the boats are suitable for experienced buyers who are ready to carefully check each stage of the transaction. Beginners should choose a store with their own warehouses and a long warranty (for example, Botzman or Flagship).
FAQ: answers to frequent questions about the boats
❓ Can I trust the reviews on the store’s website?
No, most of the reviews on the site. lodki-lodki.ru moderately positive, as the store offers discounts for their publication.
- 🔹 Yandex. Market. (No negative feedback can be removed there.)
- 🔹 Otsovnik (Look for the reviews from the check photos).
- 🔹 Fishing forums (Fish.house, Rybalki.com).
Pay attention to the reviews with detail (Order number, product photo) – it is more difficult to fake.
❓ How do I check if I can get a boat?
Ask the manager:
- Photo Photo copy-in-progress with your order number (written with a marker on the boat).
- Video serial (PvC boats are listed on the transom).
- Screenshot. consignment note From the warehouse with your data.
If the manager refuses to provide it, cancel.
❓ What if the engine is undocumented?
Without a passport and warranty card, the motor cannot:
- 🔹 Put it on the record. GIME.
- 🔹 Serve in official service centers.
- 🔹 Sell later (buyers require documents).
Write a complaint to the store immediately, demanding documents. If you refuse, contact the store. Rospotrebnadzor and police (Article 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - fraud).
❓ Why are the boats so low in prices?
The low prices are explained by:
- Dropshipping: The store does not keep the goods in stock, but orders them from suppliers after you pay.
- By Chinese brands: boat Barque, BoatMaster cheaper than European analogues, but the quality is lower.
- Reference discounts: The store saves on marketing by offering discounts for publications.
- Low margin on accessories: They get the main profit from motors and boats, and pumps or anchors sell almost at cost.
However, the low price often means risk (substitution, marriage, delays)
❓ How do I return the boat if it doesn’t fit?
By law, you can return the boat during the 7 days after purchase, if:
- 🔹 It was not in use (not in the water).
- 🔹 All tags and packaging are saved.
- 🔹 No mechanical damage.
Return procedure:
- Write a return application (the sample can be downloaded) here).
- Send the goods back. on the store (if delivered to you free of charge).
- Wait for the refund (maximum 10 days after the seller receives the goods).
If the store refuses to accept a refund, threaten to complain to the Rospotrebnadzor - it usually works.